Based on the announcement and not wanting to spoil it I've started this thread.

I really think Americans overreact to 11-9. The death count was by far not as high as say... the latest flood yet you all act like 11-9 was the worst thing ever to happen. Matter of fact, the war in iraq+afganistan cost more lives then the 11-9 attacks.

Any views? Enlighten me, or is it true that Americans only care if it happens to their country?

I am a bit confused. Do you mean 11-9 as 9-11?

I believe only Americans call it 9-11 but yeh, that's the same

Well 9-11 means september 11th so whoever calls it 11-9 has it backwards lol. The twin towers meant alot to the usa. The twin towers was where many business where located or ran from inside that building and besides that, Many innocent people died for no reason just because iraq terrorists dont like the us for some reason which i dont know so thats why we took it so serious.

We didnt over react either we just care about our country and people (atleast most of us do...I hope.) I dont know where you heard that the death count wasnt as high as they say which is 3,000. About the iraq war though that is something way different and of course there will be more deaths because its a war but hopefully it will all end soon because the iraq war is a waste of valuable money and lifes.

I think it's kind of unfair to say that Americans only care about what happens to our country. In fact, it's completely unfair.

I understand why so many Americans are continually upset by 9-11, most particularly the new generation; that is to say kids who were alive when 9-11 occured and old enough to grasp what had happened. In school, we learn about similar attacks and tragedies that occured across the world, including America, and aren't upset about it. What makes 9-11 different is we were there. We remember it, and always will. It's not another lesson in school. Perhaps we knew some of the people who were killed, or know one of the lucky survivors. It's much more personal.

And it's also true that many Americans are more shaken up by 9-11 than something that occured in another country, such as England or perhaps France, but that doesn't mean we're selfish or unsympathetic towards those English or French that suffered. It simply means we're patriotic. You can't expect a person to feel equally devastated by something that happened across the world as they would for something that happened mere miles away, can you? The fact is that it's easy to sympathise the more personal something is to you, and if we don't show as much sympathy for those across the world as we do for ourselves when we suffer a tragedy such as 9-11 it isn't because we don't care, but simply because it isn't nearly as personal.

And finally, there can be no such thing as an 'over-reaction' to something like 9-11. Thousands died, and they are mourned. Granted, I don't believe an entire war was necessary, but I'm not running the country, am I? No. And it's not an over-reaction that we remember them today, not even a decade later.

Whether the death count was one hundred or one million, it was still a tragedy and should be marked as such. Or is there a certain number of people that have to die before certain reactions can be considered fair?

the twin towers where the tallest building's and that means, more people in them, if you ahve every been inside them, they where an amazing sight to see, when it happend, there where videos of people jumping from the top floor so they didnt get burnded to death, and we also had firefighter, die, trying to save other people, yes that is thier job, but what they did took alot of guts, integrity and strenght, thats alot of flights of stiars, many firefighters, where killed when the tower collapsed, they where carriny 70 year old women out of the bulding down hundreds of flights of stairs, and the people on the plane, people where going to see thier family in other states, and the where killed, durring this time, every one stoped complaining about healthcare, and tax's and banded together as a controuy uniited, and not a "country divided,"


i was lke 9 when it happend,and i saw it live on tv, when this time of year comes around, its a big thing,

look at pearl harbour, that was day is still being remberd till this day anualy.

Very true, .Fable and euro.pholic.

I don't understand how this can be overreacted to. Its a tragedy, and many people died because of something that terrorists did.

And besides, this terrorist act started the war, so it's almost as if 9/11 has killed hundreds of thousands of people.

I just don't understand how this can be "taken too far", it's too big of a tragedy for US citizens to overreact to.

Ok I guess I see your point a bit better now.

The motivations of the terrorists that destroyed the Twin Towers was not to kill a massive amount of people but rather to destroy our American pride. If they wanted to kill more people then they would have done it later on in the day and could have killed maybe 50,000. So, this is not a comparison between 9/11 total death tolls and that of another event's.

Plus, it was the first real attack on home soil in modern America (mainland). Though I'm English and I live in England, even we were shocked by the events and I would say that it is probably same the world over.

Many people lost their lives and anyone who purposefully exaggerates statistics to make it sound worse isn't gaining greater sympathy, they are doing something wrong, many would consider it sick to purposefully stretch figures of a terrible event to make a 'better' news story.

Speaking from a First Responder''s prospective, it was the largest amount of Firefighters and Police officers to die in the Line of Duty one point in time in US History, ever. I lost 343 brothers that day to those damn asswipes who flew those planes into the towers. They set up a death trap for the emergency responders who hit that scene with the intention to only help people.

Its easy to look at a number and take it as a statistic. Oh yeah, it was *only* 3000 people...but those 3000 people had families all over the world. The attack on the WTC wasn't only an attack of America, it was an attack on what we stood for. it was an attack on the multicultural society we have and it was an attack on the great economy this country once had. (I say had, as our current pres. has the US dollar at its lowest point in ages).

As someone else put it, It was an attack on our way of life, not just a routine suicide bombing.

I will never forget, I will always remember, and I will never let the number 343 slip away from my mind. Every time I hit the rig, I always see that flag on the window and remember that we aren't invincible. All of us give some, they gave it all.

Being Japanese and hailing, and grew up there, makes September 11, nothing to me.
So everyone freaking out around me is a bit weird.

And the part about Pearl Harbor. Japanese attack Military Personal. US, attacked Civilians. So bad US.

I remember when 9-11 was on the news, but I was too young to fully grasp it.

@Mr. Swartz: It's not that they have it backwards, it's just that other countries say the day, then the month when saying/writing the date. Although you are right in that 9-11 is the proper title for it.

Well its not that the iraqi terrorists dont like the us its cuz whoeva doesnt believe in their religion they kill and their target is a lot of people in one place. So they hijaked planes and crashed them. but im 100% wit u it waz the worst terrorist attacks in us history and the world cuz remember they crashed planes in 4 diferent places: the twin towers, the pentagon, and a field in pennsylvania. And yes the war has killed many people but the terrorist attacks were unexpected the war is obviously expected! So thats why the terrorist attacks were sadder.

yo im srry that happened but i mean things happen! yeah those terrorists r selfish little asswipes and b!#%@&$! and u r totaly rite im 150% on wat u said!

I read that 9/11 was a goverment inside job & bush used the attack for money. You can read about this article at http://www.911truth.org/
There where also bombs in the twin towers. You can see footage at
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rwhU15UY3Fc

Honestly.
PLEASE don't even bring that $%^# into this topic.
That's one of the big things that just seems to set me off lately.
The fact is that 343 firefighters and 71 Law enforcement officers combined wit the civilians making a total of about 3,000 people died on that day. Show respect or shut your mouth IMO.


Anyways, to gerjens post.
I think the reason this is such a huge deal is because it showed that someone basically walked in our front door and put slug in our heads. Sure, floods happen. It's hard to prevent them. But people stealing three airplanes with box cutters? How was that not prevented. It's just.. idk. My uncle worked in the section of the pentagon that was hit. He was out to lunch.. lucky.

o dude u r so luky he was havin lunch and he waz 2! man he had an angel wit him the angel prob took him 2 lunch!!!

Wait a minute. I have much respect for those people who died & helped take care of the situation. I brought that into this topic to show people what it was like when it happened.

What it was like?
All that's saying is that these people died from our own hands. That we pulled the trigger because we voted those who supposable "framed Binladin" into office.

That's like those who say it wasn't a plane that hit the pentagon.. it was a missile. When plane parts where scattered across the field and that would mean that flight 77 had just.. poofed away?

I had to read that three times to figure out that you weren't being disrespectful. What grade are you in/how old are you Big? If its any older than 5, and in a grade higher than first...well...i suggest you focus more on your studies than on message boards. You obviously aren't paying attention well enough in English to write in a comprehendible manner.
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Mr. Swartz:

You really think those videos show what "it was like"? Please, tell me you aren't serious. That is quite possibly some of the biggest bull$%^# i've ever heard in my life. One of my best friends was there on that day. Please, don't tell me thats what it was like. Thankfully, he walked out alive.

Grow a brain, one different than Mr. Moore's, mmkay?

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You get my post of the month award.
I'll make it tomorrow.. for now.. I DRINK!
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I dont know dude I wasnt there I just go by what info I can get.
I dont know how someone could make a false 911 video but I guess
they can be done. sorry if i affended anyone because that wasnt my intentions.

I saw this show that showed some guy was on one of the floors that got impacted by the plane (South Tower). He said, "I was looking at the direction of the Statue of Liberty and saw this plane coming towards me. It was getting bigger and bigger and thats when I was just stunned, I couldn't do anything. So then I ducked down under my desk and it hit. Than everything was quiet. And the phone was ringing. I don't know who was trying to call me at the time. But than I said this must be a dream. When a plane hits, BOOM, you're dead."

I was shocked that he lived. I guess ducking under the desk saved him.

chills ::MK::

thats amazing

Yeah I had goosebumps when he was saying that cause I couldn't believe he lived. I was shocked that he thought of ducking under the desk at that time. If a plane is going straight at you, you don't really have time to think.

Actually its the 7 year anniversary today.

Man, that was a day that we all thought it couldn't happen, cause we thought we were to big and mighty. But, it happened, and I'd like to think of 9/11 as a lesson. A lesson in which now we all have learned.