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Nir - April 16, 2007 09:08 PM (GMT)
Today, the deadliest rampage in US history occurred, 30+ dead, many more injured. The fcat that things like this continue to happen and are able to achieve such a scale of devastation is horrible. I don't understand how in a college, a guy was able to shoot and kill 30 people.

It's just sad and my best wishes are with the families of the victims and the rest of the children.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9605702

justsomekidhere - April 16, 2007 09:18 PM (GMT)
I saw that on the news. I think it was 33 dead.

I also wish the best for the family's, and the students who had to see this or were injured.

robshoy - April 16, 2007 09:31 PM (GMT)
I have a related story that's almost as shocking.

As a Russian family, we get a satellite channel of Russian television. This channel, "Channel 1 Russia", is a government-owned channel, as many are in Russia to this day. Well, the news was on, and they were talking about the shooting, and they reported that the police killed most of the people, which we know is not true. It just goes to show you that FOX aren't the only biased news source in the world. Russia's own government completely slanted a story against the US. And I assure you, no one will notice. I just noticed because I get news from both sources.

Jennifer - April 16, 2007 09:57 PM (GMT)
31 students were reported dead.
32 is the death count, including the gunman.
It was believed that he was shot by an officer or shot himself.

& The police killing people?
Jeeze =/
That's not really appropriate to say.
Make the United States sound bad, no wonder we get such a reputation.

justsomekidhere - April 16, 2007 10:44 PM (GMT)
He shot himself in the head is what they are saying now. He had 2 hand guns, and a vest with magazines in it. They think it was because his girl friend broke up with him They have found a cell phone next to his body and his fingerprints don't match any records.
33 including himself is what they are saying for the casualties and 26 wounded I think.

It's the biggest shooting rampage in US History. Even worse then in Columbine.

eKno - April 16, 2007 11:02 PM (GMT)
Man, I hate stuff like this, it's just terrible, it shouldn't have to happen to anyone. I feel so terrible, and what makes me feel even worse now is that adults are going to start blaming this on video games and movies. It's a terrible terrible thing, and something needs to be done. Whether it is more security or better outreach to students regarding counciling, it has to happen.

Carlos - April 16, 2007 11:04 PM (GMT)
At first I didn't actually think this was a big enough news story, but being as for some reason every website/forum I've been on is discussing it I may as well say I'm sorry for those people.

eKno - April 16, 2007 11:06 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Carlos @ Apr 16 2007, 06:04 PM)
At first I didn't actually think this was a big enough news story, but being as for some reason every website/forum I've been on is discussing it I may as well say I'm sorry for those people.

Why didn't/don't you think this is a big enough story?

Carlos - April 16, 2007 11:09 PM (GMT)
I didn't think so for some reason being as I didn't actually hear about it much. Honestly it doesn't bother me at all since personally it doesn't affect me in anyways. Yes, I do feel saddened, however I'm also happy to know this will provide good discussion on my Government class tomorrow.

eKno - April 16, 2007 11:11 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Carlos @ Apr 16 2007, 06:09 PM)
I didn't think so for some reason being as I didn't actually hear about it much. Honestly it doesn't bother me at all since personally it doesn't affect me in anyways. Yes, I do feel saddened, however I'm also happy to know this will provide good discussion on my Government class tomorrow.

It doesn't bother you at all? It doesn't make you wonder about your own safety? It doesn't make you wonder "what if I was one of these people?" It does to me, that's why it's hard to hear about this kind of stuff.

Carlos - April 16, 2007 11:17 PM (GMT)
To be honest no it doesn't. You can call me whatever you wish but it's my own opinion.

My condolences to the families though.

justsomekidhere - April 16, 2007 11:19 PM (GMT)
Well though I don't support what you're saying Carlos it's your opinion. I on the other hand hopes that this will bring more security into our schools.

Maveus - April 16, 2007 11:55 PM (GMT)
My condolences go out to the families of the victims, and everyone else effected.

Carlos - April 17, 2007 12:18 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (justsomekidhere @ Apr 16 2007, 07:19 PM)
Well though I don't support what you're saying Carlos it's your opinion. I on the other hand hopes that this will bring more security into our schools.

At least your taking it the right way and not making a fuss about it, which is awesome. :)

eKno - April 17, 2007 12:27 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Carlos @ Apr 16 2007, 07:18 PM)
QUOTE (justsomekidhere @ Apr 16 2007, 07:19 PM)
Well though I don't support what you're saying Carlos it's your opinion. I on the other hand hopes that this will bring more security into our schools.

At least your taking it the right way and not making a fuss about it, which is awesome. :)

Don't take it the wrong way, I wasn't making a fuss about your beliefs, I was just trying to figure out what you were saying.

I respect everyone's beliefs, doesn't mean I have to agree with them.

Carlos - April 17, 2007 12:37 AM (GMT)
Thats understandable =D

Jennifer - April 17, 2007 12:41 AM (GMT)
Was it actually a student who went wild shooting?

Jeeze.

Evit-Morningstar - April 17, 2007 01:08 AM (GMT)
From what I've heard there were two shootings, which they are not certain are related. The first shooting occured around 7:50~ and that was two people, a man and a woman, killed in a dorm. Then 2 hours later the other shooting occurred. They believe it was two people, one of which is dead, and they have a second who is suspect. The man who is dead was not a student, but I don't know about the one in suspect.

That's what I've heard. And I have to agree w/ Carlos. As horrible as this situation is, it is a thousand miles from me. I know no one at Virgina Tech, and so I have no ties to affect me. I'm sure nearly everyone else in the United States is the same way. Most people probably aren't even worried about the family of the dead, but rather "Is my school / child safe?" It's not so much that the deaths affect them, but that they fear for their own lives. And this is completely natural. It's nothing to be ashamed of. Yes I know that it's a tragedy, and I agree that it is horrible, but it doesn't really affect me besides reaffirming the fact that there are some odd people in the world that I will never understand.

If you really think about it, unless you know someone at Virginia Tech, how does this tragedy really affect you?

Nir - April 17, 2007 02:31 AM (GMT)
Though most of us are not affected by us, policy changes that could be initiated by this will effect us. And it is just generally important to know what is going on, and when tragedies such as these of such massive scale occur, it is important to stop and think and try to prevent such things from happening in the future.

robshoy - April 17, 2007 02:32 AM (GMT)
I'm almost positive we'll have an assembly tomorrow about this, and possibly introducing some new safety measures.

euro.pholic - April 17, 2007 02:36 AM (GMT)
i feel bad for the victims and the killer, but what i want to know is what is going through thier head, when they kill the people the dont like, why do they always kill themselves affter they get rid of thier problem , is it the guilt or the fear of prisin, or do they think its better than the death sentence.?

Evit-Morningstar - April 17, 2007 05:46 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Nir @ Apr 16 2007, 09:31 PM)
it is important to stop and think and try to prevent such things from happening in the future.

I agree we should not take this lightly, but I don't think we're going to be able to change anything. You have to realize things are just as safe / unsafe as they were before. Nothing has changed in that regard. In a college setting, it's very difficult to monitor security so strictly. It could have just as easily happened in a grocery store. It's not like we can have metal detectors everywhere or anything like that. We just have to have at least a small amount of trust in our fellow man, that's what makes society work.

robshoy - April 17, 2007 09:00 PM (GMT)
We had a moment of silence this morning, and my Global Teacher announced he would no longer be playing the song "I Don't Like Mondays" by Bob Geldolf since it quote, "hits a bit too close to home." For those who don't know, "I Don't Like Mondays" was a hit back in the 1980s about one of the first and more famous school shootings, done by a girl. The girl was questioned as to why she did it, and her response was "I Don't Like Mondays". The song has since lost its meaning a bit, and our Global History teacher has been playing it every Monday morning as a tradition/joke, to loosen us up after a weekend. But now that there's been such a tragedy, we've decided to find a new Monday song.

Liv - April 17, 2007 10:53 PM (GMT)
I know so many people that go there...thankfully my friends are safe. -sigh- It was so sad for me to hear, and it scared my entire school. We have a lot of graduates that go to VT, so we were very scared...

This just totally disgusted me...-sigh- It's also very depressing...

Nc - April 17, 2007 11:41 PM (GMT)
We had a moment of silence. And people were talking which just pissed me the !%<* off.

.Black - April 18, 2007 01:29 AM (GMT)
Two of my good friends have siblings that go to Virginia Tech. My friend's sister is safe. My other friend's brother is studying engineering and was one building over from the shooting. He is fine but his BEST FRIEND was shot and killed.

So from his brother I hear that the shooter shot his girlfriend(maybe ex) and the guy she was sleeping with first off. So clearly he went psycho. Nobody knows the truth though, no one can ask him now, he's dead. As to the rest of the school year, all of the classes within the area are called off for the rest of the year but the other students will possibly go back to class on Monday.

justsomekidhere - April 18, 2007 01:39 AM (GMT)
Apparently they found notes in his Dorm or something... And I don't think it was his ex girlfriend. I think it was someone who he liked that she wanted nothing to do with him. And he found out that she liked another guy. And he went insane. He was a loner.

Amasian - April 18, 2007 01:48 AM (GMT)
33 Dead
28 Wounded

Sad, very sad. :(

justsomekidhere - April 18, 2007 01:49 AM (GMT)
I just can't believe no one could stop one guy... It's ridiculous. He also has been planning this for a while. His notes said that he had make some bomb threats a few weeks earlier to find out how long he had before the police would come.

Nc - April 18, 2007 10:31 AM (GMT)
Ian, People where sitting in class and he comes in and just shoots everyone. showing no fear, no regret, not a chance of stopping. I bet if you were one of those students you wouldnt do anything.
There was one class who actually tried to hold the door shut because it wouldn't lock and he shot them right through the door.

justsomekidhere - April 18, 2007 11:02 AM (GMT)
No actually none of them were hit WHILE holding the door but one or two were hit early in the classroom. And I was talking about campus security and stuff, not just the kids.

Amasian - April 18, 2007 01:34 PM (GMT)
The sad part is that now some liberals want gun control security higher. Or something like that. This totally depletes much of the defense we can usually have.

Sobriquet. - April 18, 2007 05:23 PM (GMT)
It's terrible, some people are just completly sick in the head =/

Amasian - April 18, 2007 06:09 PM (GMT)
Agreed.

Chris B. - April 18, 2007 06:24 PM (GMT)
Two of my friends go there, thank god they're okay.

We;re having a gold&maroon day on friday, wearing the colors to support the victims.

xXkakruaXx - April 18, 2007 09:28 PM (GMT)
If people had guns at that time there wouldn't have been that much killings in the first place. But after the first shooting, it was two hours... two hours of nothing. The school didn't shut down, they didn't even warn the whole campus. That's what's amazing to me. If I was there I would want knowledge of what has happen before the guy goes into another building shooting up more people.

I think people kill themselves cause they couldn't handle talking about what they did. It was basically just a suicide, just the fact the guy didn't want to go alone.

Nc - April 18, 2007 11:01 PM (GMT)
He was smart if you think about it.
He shoots two dead in the dorm, drawing all attention to there. Then walks across campus and does the rest of his terrible actions two hours later.
The place should have been shut down, or at least a warning should have been given out earlier. I hope that if someone gets shot in my naborhood, and the killer is not caught, that i have a proper warning instead of me just walking down the street and end up going into the path of someone like that.
There where big mistakes made that day that should and could have been changed. A lot of lives most likely could have been saved.
We can ensure safety from terrorists now that we've stepped it up a notch, but give a man on the street a gun w/ enough ammo and he can wipe out a building of people if he wanted to.

xXkakruaXx - April 18, 2007 11:04 PM (GMT)
Yea it was smart, probably been thinking about it for a while. But yea, I would defiantly want warning if something happened. But you also got to think that the people who are over the school where shocked, and probably had their minds focused only on the two shooting, and not the rest of the school at that time, but man 2 hours?

Nc - April 19, 2007 03:34 AM (GMT)
It was one shooting which killed two people. Female and a Male.
Then he went to his dorm MAILED A PACAGE TO CNN NEWS WHICH WAS JUST RECIEVED TODAY. then walked across campus and killed another 30 innocent people. Revealing the tape and letters sent to CNN news you knew that this was planned. He chained up the doors giving more reason to suspect it was planned. At first i thought he made a mistake by killing the first two and just decided to do what he could and maybe get off with a deal if the cops thought he was THAT serious. but realized it wouldnt work and killed himself. Now i just think he was sick, a sick freak who should have been removed from that school way before this every happened.
-nick

Jamie_55 - April 19, 2007 10:57 AM (GMT)
I live in the UK and it went round fast around here, it was in every newspaper possible every news channel. There were 32 people killed and himself. There was a video posted, and you can here over 500 bullets shot i'm sure. It proves what imagrents are dont you think? I'm not been rascit i am just saying i dont like them, i would love to live in the USA but this kinda stuff makes me feel diffrent.

So i guess this is not the only time this has happened in Virginia College?




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