Is the Big Bang theory really Atheistic? Or is it the way of the creation of the universe?

The universe is finite and causality states that anything finite must have a cause to it's beginning. Nothing is self-causing because for that to be the finite item would have to exist before it exists in order to cause it to exist. That is a total contradiction. Therefore the universe must have a cause. The cause of the Big Bang is God!!!! Disagree? It's fine lol. Feel free to debate below.

Before I state my opinion: the Big Bang theory is not mutually exclusive with religion. Perhaps God started the Big Bang?

Anyways, I hold my beliefs with the Big Bang theory because I find it to be the most valid theory. How else could have the universe started, deity/ies or no deity/ies?

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i be leave that the universe was vary vary small and something happened that a huge star of some sort blow up and expanded the universe (the big bang) the universe might have been made by god (i do not be leave that) or it might have been made from something else but when the big bang hit the universe got much much bigger and that is were it is at today.




more information on the BIG BANG can be found here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

Er... I know what the Big Bang theory is, thus I included it in my post... O.o

What else could have caused this expansion of the universe (Big Bang Theory)? There must be a cause to the beginning of every finite thing in the universe (this also includes the universe). And it was not a huge star that caused the universe to "happen" for every finite thing (including stars) is part of the universe. If there was a star that happened to start all the universe then what could have caused that? For I hope that you know nothing can become of nothing.

Which is why I said that the Bing Bang can involve a deity. It's important to remember that this particular theory is definitely not Godless. :)

Yes, but what I am saying is that it did involve a deity. It was not started from nothing.

I believe the big bang is what created the earth, although the big bang is like popping a balloon (much more advanced obviously), someone has to pop it.

Ah, I see what you mean. :)

Yep so , therefore, this proves my point of there being a God. Now all you have to chose is which one. I say Christianity is the real one. Some might disagree, but that is my belief.

Darn if I know

I actually had this theory as well, although I don't totally believe in the god created the earth in seven days, I do believe that he/she caused the big bang or something we can't begin to understand, what we would call "God" disagree?

Well. I believe in what the bible says and it says God made it in 7 days. So I don't believe in the Big Bang Theory.

Like I say I'm not agreeing with either, I'm agreeing they both took place, and that they both caused the other.

I see what you're saying. I just go by the bible. It says He did stuff day by day for 7 days so that's what I believe.

I am a Christian. The Big Bang Theory (BBT) has nothing to do with atheism. There is nothing atheistic about it. In fact the BBT points towards theism. The BBT is nothing but an event. The BBT is just the start of the expansion of the universe. How is it theistic then? The principles of Causality. One principle states that anything finite must have a cause. So if you have a cause then you have the "causer." Which in this case would be a deity. Why is it monotheism and not pantheism for example? Because in pantheism God is part of the universe and therefore "he" cannot cause himself. Why is it not deism? Because the deistic God doesn't intervene with nature yet we see evidence of intelligent design in the history of life. Want to argue about intelligent design then we'll make a new topic ok?

But the question is; where does the proton and electron are from?!?

They were created by God.

That somewhat answers the question of how electrons, protons, etc. were created. It was a quick Google search, so there's probably better information out there if one were to look.

As for this whole God vs. Science argument, I never understood why people argue so much. Pope John Paul II himself said that science does not contradict religion, because religion and science look at the universe in two different ways. As many people know, Pope John Paul II also went as far as to say that the Theory of Evolution is compatible with religion.

I can not say that I believe the Bible word for word, and I can not understand why other people can say that. My reasoning is this: the Bible contradicts itself so many time that one can not say that they believe every word of the Bible, then turn around and suddenly start picking and choosing what to believe in the Bible, because then you wouldn't be believing every single word of the Bible.

I, myself, am no longer Catholic; however, my decision to do so did not have to do so much with belief as with how the religion is practiced. Personally, I am at a point where if it turned out there was no God, I wouldn't be surprised, and if there is a God, then I wouldn't be surprised.

As for the Big Bang Theory itself, this is another issue where I don't understand why people argue. Many people here have mentioned a compromise that I have brought up almost all my life when discussing this issue: Sure, the Big Bang happened, but what's to say that a God-like figure didn't set things in motion to cause it? No one currently has any way of saying that that couldn't be true.

When it comes to what the Bible says, I do not believe that the earth and everything else were created in seven (six, technically) days. My reasoning? Those Bible stories were first told thousands of years ago and back then there was little to no science. In fact, it was more likely that science could get you stoned for blaspheming. Therefore, over the years people developed various creation stories to explain the world around them in the best way that they had available at the time. You see the same thing happen with every other religion in the world, and yet people automatically dismiss THOSE with no problem. This is my reaction to that: "???????!!!!?!?!??" Do people even realize how much EVERY SINGLE creation story IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD has in common? Technically, the Jewish/Christian story of creation isn't even an original story!

Another reason for my not believing in the world being created in seven days is this: In the Bible, and to those who wrote it and lived in the time, the numbers seven and forty were purely symbolic numbers meaning "a long time". They do not actually mean that the earth was created in seven days, or that the flood lasted for forty days, or that the Israelites wandered in the desert for forty years. It simply means that the earth was created, the flood lasted, and the Israelites wandered for a long time.

Please point out a self-contradiction in the Bible.

Easy. Hebrew Scriptures/Old Testament vs New Testament. There's contradictions left and right. A classic one being this:

In the HS/OT, God says that punishment works like this: a tooth for a tooth, an eye for eye, etc.

In the New Testament, Jesus says that if someone strikes you, don't strike them back, instead turn the other cheek.

Of course, this is just one example among many. My point is, it's impossible for one to claim that they believe EVERY SINGLE word of the Bible when it's full of contradictions.

That example is flawed. You must understand the context of the literature. In Exodous when that law was made, it had nothing to do with revenge. It was merely saying, that if someone hurts you, then in court, you can only chose a punishment for them that was equal to or lesser than what they did to you. And then in the New Testament, Jesus is saying that it is better to chose not to chose a punishment for them. So for example, back in the time of the OT (Old Testament) in a court, the one who has been hurt, choses the punishment for the offender. So, for example, if someone punches out a tooth, the highest punishment you can do to them is take out a tooth. But Jesus comes along and says because you have the choice of their punishment, it is best not to have their tooth taken out.

I Believe the bbt (big bang theory) cuz its the only accurate scientific theory on how the universe waz made. As far as it goes wit the bible (which i do believe) its talking about God creating earth in 7 days not the universe. In the point of christianity he mite of made the big bang, but who knows?

Google answers all.

And again!

This site has no information as to what translations the verses are. I believe they are mostly, if not all, KJV, which has flaws as back in that time they did not do as good of a job translating the original Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic texts. Also, many of the verses are not talking about the same thing, which is due to translation in many cases. (I was talking about the first site.)

I do not have my bible on me so I will check out the second site later.